Comments on: Recruiting, Unconferences and Social Media http://www.theredrecruiter.com/social-media/recruiting-unconferences-and-social-media/ Recruiting, Social Media and Red Shoe Adventures! Sat, 28 Aug 2010 22:25:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: The Red Recruiter http://www.theredrecruiter.com/social-media/recruiting-unconferences-and-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-207 The Red Recruiter Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:09:54 +0000 http://www.redrecruiting.com/?p=550#comment-207 Jason - Ahh... One other thing. Becoming an expert is not necessary... having a fundamental understanding of the tools - I think that would be helpful. Jason – Ahh… One other thing. Becoming an expert is not necessary… having a fundamental understanding of the tools – I think that would be helpful.

]]> By: The Red Recruiter http://www.theredrecruiter.com/social-media/recruiting-unconferences-and-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1994 The Red Recruiter Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:09:00 +0000 http://www.redrecruiting.com/?p=550#comment-1994 Jason - Ahh... One other thing. Becoming an expert is not necessary... having a fundamental understanding of the tools - I think that would be helpful. Jason – Ahh… One other thing. Becoming an expert is not necessary… having a fundamental understanding of the tools – I think that would be helpful.

]]> By: The Red Recruiter http://www.theredrecruiter.com/social-media/recruiting-unconferences-and-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-206 The Red Recruiter Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:08:56 +0000 http://www.redrecruiting.com/?p=550#comment-206 Jason - I think that we are on the same page. In fact, whenever I train recruiters on the topic of social media usage, it's heavily focused on what they can do to be a part of the conversation without wasting their entire day doing it. As with everything, we should find some balance. This philosophy, in my mind, would apply to almost any person getting involved with social media... especially if they have a business (even in part) behind their efforts. Thanks for sharing Jason. Jason – I think that we are on the same page. In fact, whenever I train recruiters on the topic of social media usage, it’s heavily focused on what they can do to be a part of the conversation without wasting their entire day doing it. As with everything, we should find some balance. This philosophy, in my mind, would apply to almost any person getting involved with social media… especially if they have a business (even in part) behind their efforts. Thanks for sharing Jason.

]]> By: The Red Recruiter http://www.theredrecruiter.com/social-media/recruiting-unconferences-and-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1993 The Red Recruiter Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:08:00 +0000 http://www.redrecruiting.com/?p=550#comment-1993 Jason - I think that we are on the same page. In fact, whenever I train recruiters on the topic of social media usage, it's heavily focused on what they can do to be a part of the conversation without wasting their entire day doing it. As with everything, we should find some balance. This philosophy, in my mind, would apply to almost any person getting involved with social media... especially if they have a business (even in part) behind their efforts. Thanks for sharing Jason. Jason – I think that we are on the same page. In fact, whenever I train recruiters on the topic of social media usage, it’s heavily focused on what they can do to be a part of the conversation without wasting their entire day doing it. As with everything, we should find some balance. This philosophy, in my mind, would apply to almost any person getting involved with social media… especially if they have a business (even in part) behind their efforts. Thanks for sharing Jason.

]]> By: Jason Davis http://www.theredrecruiter.com/social-media/recruiting-unconferences-and-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-205 Jason Davis Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:02:56 +0000 http://www.redrecruiting.com/?p=550#comment-205 Michael, The problem I see is that there is so much talk online about the need for recruiters to become experts in social media. It's just not true. You must see it, follow these top 150 top recruiters on twitter or you need to lay this talent trap or that talent trap and then by the end of it, that poor recruiter is the one caught in the trap. It's hard to feel good about accomplishments daily as a recruiter because placements don't happen every day. Social networking make it easy to feel good about the impact you have on people because it's often instant, it's often positive and you get to see your trail of popularity. When you mentioned Pinnacle Society, it made me think that when you go to the pinnacle society get togethers, the thing you hear a lot is what were your billings last year. It is a real measure of success and I know the recruiting industry is made up of more than just third party recruiters but this business is still about getting people hired and the identification of candidates with the skills to do the job has nothing whatsoever to do with them actually taking the job. Social networking makes it easy to identify people with the right skills but then part of being nice on line is about getting back to people and this poses a whole new set of time wasting issues. Michael,
The problem I see is that there is so much talk online about the need for recruiters to become experts in social media. It’s just not true. You must see it, follow these top 150 top recruiters on twitter or you need to lay this talent trap or that talent trap and then by the end of it, that poor recruiter is the one caught in the trap. It’s hard to feel good about accomplishments daily as a recruiter because placements don’t happen every day. Social networking make it easy to feel good about the impact you have on people because it’s often instant, it’s often positive and you get to see your trail of popularity. When you mentioned Pinnacle Society, it made me think that when you go to the pinnacle society get togethers, the thing you hear a lot is what were your billings last year. It is a real measure of success and I know the recruiting industry is made up of more than just third party recruiters but this business is still about getting people hired and the identification of candidates with the skills to do the job has nothing whatsoever to do with them actually taking the job. Social networking makes it easy to identify people with the right skills but then part of being nice on line is about getting back to people and this poses a whole new set of time wasting issues.

]]> By: Jason Davis http://www.theredrecruiter.com/social-media/recruiting-unconferences-and-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1992 Jason Davis Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:02:00 +0000 http://www.redrecruiting.com/?p=550#comment-1992 Michael, The problem I see is that there is so much talk online about the need for recruiters to become experts in social media. It's just not true. You must see it, follow these top 150 top recruiters on twitter or you need to lay this talent trap or that talent trap and then by the end of it, that poor recruiter is the one caught in the trap. It's hard to feel good about accomplishments daily as a recruiter because placements don't happen every day. Social networking make it easy to feel good about the impact you have on people because it's often instant, it's often positive and you get to see your trail of popularity. When you mentioned Pinnacle Society, it made me think that when you go to the pinnacle society get togethers, the thing you hear a lot is what were your billings last year. It is a real measure of success and I know the recruiting industry is made up of more than just third party recruiters but this business is still about getting people hired and the identification of candidates with the skills to do the job has nothing whatsoever to do with them actually taking the job. Social networking makes it easy to identify people with the right skills but then part of being nice on line is about getting back to people and this poses a whole new set of time wasting issues. Michael,
The problem I see is that there is so much talk online about the need for recruiters to become experts in social media. It’s just not true. You must see it, follow these top 150 top recruiters on twitter or you need to lay this talent trap or that talent trap and then by the end of it, that poor recruiter is the one caught in the trap. It’s hard to feel good about accomplishments daily as a recruiter because placements don’t happen every day. Social networking make it easy to feel good about the impact you have on people because it’s often instant, it’s often positive and you get to see your trail of popularity. When you mentioned Pinnacle Society, it made me think that when you go to the pinnacle society get togethers, the thing you hear a lot is what were your billings last year. It is a real measure of success and I know the recruiting industry is made up of more than just third party recruiters but this business is still about getting people hired and the identification of candidates with the skills to do the job has nothing whatsoever to do with them actually taking the job. Social networking makes it easy to identify people with the right skills but then part of being nice on line is about getting back to people and this poses a whole new set of time wasting issues.

]]> By: The Red Recruiter http://www.theredrecruiter.com/social-media/recruiting-unconferences-and-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-204 The Red Recruiter Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:16:17 +0000 http://www.redrecruiting.com/?p=550#comment-204 Jason, That seems like a loaded comment. But, that's okay, I would like to hear your POV. The only change that I would consider in the above comment would be "any". There is a small section of recruiters who are very established and probably do not need additional tools to continue on with their successful practices. Assuming that they have the skills and are willing to age with their client and candidate groups, I could see this working. For the rest of the recruiting world, I do see social media as an important area to "familiarize" themselves with. Speaking from the perspective of someone who would hire a recruiter for my firm, I would be very hesitant if they weren't at least familiar with some of the basic tools. Based on the trending analysis done by iStrategyLabs, the demographics and unique visit volumes continue to go up. Assuming that Facebook passes Google in September, as the trends indicate, knowledge of the realm is moving very quickly from a "nice to have" to a "must have." There are surely angles that I haven't considered... but, again, that's one of the great things about online communication and dialogue. We all get the chance to consider these various angles on an issue and discuss them. This post was written to start a dialogue. I hope that we can continue to have one. Looking forward, Michael Jason,

That seems like a loaded comment. But, that’s okay, I would like to hear your POV. The only change that I would consider in the above comment would be “any”. There is a small section of recruiters who are very established and probably do not need additional tools to continue on with their successful practices. Assuming that they have the skills and are willing to age with their client and candidate groups, I could see this working. For the rest of the recruiting world, I do see social media as an important area to “familiarize” themselves with. Speaking from the perspective of someone who would hire a recruiter for my firm, I would be very hesitant if they weren’t at least familiar with some of the basic tools. Based on the trending analysis done by iStrategyLabs, the demographics and unique visit volumes continue to go up. Assuming that Facebook passes Google in September, as the trends indicate, knowledge of the realm is moving very quickly from a “nice to have” to a “must have.”

There are surely angles that I haven’t considered… but, again, that’s one of the great things about online communication and dialogue. We all get the chance to consider these various angles on an issue and discuss them.

This post was written to start a dialogue. I hope that we can continue to have one.

Looking forward,
Michael

]]> By: The Red Recruiter http://www.theredrecruiter.com/social-media/recruiting-unconferences-and-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1991 The Red Recruiter Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:16:00 +0000 http://www.redrecruiting.com/?p=550#comment-1991 Jason, That seems like a loaded comment. But, that's okay, I would like to hear your POV. The only change that I would consider in the above comment would be "any". There is a small section of recruiters who are very established and probably do not need additional tools to continue on with their successful practices. Assuming that they have the skills and are willing to age with their client and candidate groups, I could see this working. For the rest of the recruiting world, I do see social media as an important area to "familiarize" themselves with. Speaking from the perspective of someone who would hire a recruiter for my firm, I would be very hesitant if they weren't at least familiar with some of the basic tools. Based on the trending analysis done by iStrategyLabs, the demographics and unique visit volumes continue to go up. Assuming that Facebook passes Google in September, as the trends indicate, knowledge of the realm is moving very quickly from a "nice to have" to a "must have." There are surely angles that I haven't considered... but, again, that's one of the great things about online communication and dialogue. We all get the chance to consider these various angles on an issue and discuss them. This post was written to start a dialogue. I hope that we can continue to have one. Looking forward, Michael Jason,

That seems like a loaded comment. But, that’s okay, I would like to hear your POV. The only change that I would consider in the above comment would be “any”. There is a small section of recruiters who are very established and probably do not need additional tools to continue on with their successful practices. Assuming that they have the skills and are willing to age with their client and candidate groups, I could see this working. For the rest of the recruiting world, I do see social media as an important area to “familiarize” themselves with. Speaking from the perspective of someone who would hire a recruiter for my firm, I would be very hesitant if they weren’t at least familiar with some of the basic tools. Based on the trending analysis done by iStrategyLabs, the demographics and unique visit volumes continue to go up. Assuming that Facebook passes Google in September, as the trends indicate, knowledge of the realm is moving very quickly from a “nice to have” to a “must have.”

There are surely angles that I haven’t considered… but, again, that’s one of the great things about online communication and dialogue. We all get the chance to consider these various angles on an issue and discuss them.

This post was written to start a dialogue. I hope that we can continue to have one.

Looking forward,
Michael

]]> By: Jason Davis http://www.theredrecruiter.com/social-media/recruiting-unconferences-and-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-203 Jason Davis Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:13:52 +0000 http://www.redrecruiting.com/?p=550#comment-203 I just want to know if you really believe this to be true. "During the training at BarCamp Recruit, I said to the group that any recruiter who does not familiarize themselves with social media over the course of the next two years will be a dinosaur. I meant it. In fact, in retrospect, I should have said “over the course of the next year” – it would have made more sense." Thanks I just want to know if you really believe this to be true.

“During the training at BarCamp Recruit, I said to the group that any recruiter who does not familiarize themselves with social media over the course of the next two years will be a dinosaur. I meant it. In fact, in retrospect, I should have said “over the course of the next year” – it would have made more sense.”

Thanks

]]> By: Jason Davis http://www.theredrecruiter.com/social-media/recruiting-unconferences-and-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1990 Jason Davis Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:13:00 +0000 http://www.redrecruiting.com/?p=550#comment-1990 I just want to know if you really believe this to be true. "During the training at BarCamp Recruit, I said to the group that any recruiter who does not familiarize themselves with social media over the course of the next two years will be a dinosaur. I meant it. In fact, in retrospect, I should have said “over the course of the next year” – it would have made more sense." Thanks I just want to know if you really believe this to be true.

“During the training at BarCamp Recruit, I said to the group that any recruiter who does not familiarize themselves with social media over the course of the next two years will be a dinosaur. I meant it. In fact, in retrospect, I should have said “over the course of the next year” – it would have made more sense.”

Thanks

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